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mahnmut ([personal profile] mahnmut) wrote2008-04-11 01:38 pm
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Oh the hypocrisy

It's ironic, human rights is oh so good, unless someone whose opinion we don't like happens to pronounce it. Oh the hypocrisy.

Mind you, this hypocrisy is not reserved to US only (oh, am I saying this??)  :-)

I recently tried to put a link in one of my comments, leading to a white supremacist blog which constantly spews hatred. But to my amazement, I found out it has been deleted!

http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/

Even if it's regarded as a site spreading hateful and ignorant statements, it has the right to exist, if we're to talk about real human rights / freedom of expression!

(Btw, the site may be themed around South Africa, but the provider is based in the US. Go figure).



On the other hand...

Our Constitution says it clearly:


16. Freedom of expression
  1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression, which includes ­
    1. freedom of the press and other media;
    2. freedom to receive or impart information or ideas;
    3. freedom of artistic creativity; and
    4. academic freedom and freedom of scientific research.
  2. The right in subsection (1) does not extend to ­
    1. propaganda for war;
    2. incitement of imminent violence; or
    3. advocacy of hatred that is based on race, ethnicity, gender or religion, and that constitutes incitement to cause harm.

[identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com 2008-04-11 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
You actually disproved yourself in the 2nd part (where you quoted the constitution). Freedom of expression is good, but to some extent - until the point where it ignites hatred and open, violent conflict. I think anyone should re-read their constitutions before they start spreading hateful messages aiming to recruit more haters for their suspicious causes.

[identity profile] nairiporter.livejournal.com 2008-04-11 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
The freedom of speech is a great gift but it is also a great responsibility to use it wisely.

sorry if this is unclear. i'm waking up without coffee as usual

[identity profile] myriad-mirrors.livejournal.com 2008-04-11 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, we do have to allow all forms of expression if we are to be fair. It is only another way that leaders can strip away our freedoms, if they start convincing us that certain forms of expression are not right. Furthermore, it's dangerous when everyone is so polarized as they are in this country right now. Keeps everyone looking in the wrong direction and keeps us easy to control.
You do forgive some people for being born in the United States, I hope. ( ;

[identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com 2008-04-11 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, are you tryna break my comments record!?