mahnmut: (Quaero togam pacem.)
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The name of the robotics scientist and transhumanist Hans Moravec that I saw menioned here served as a prototype for the Moravecs, a race of cybernetic organisms that populated Dan Simmons' fictional future universe in the Ilium/Olympos cycle. Those half human, half machine beings were each adapted to their respective habitats, and the one we're seeing here on this pic is actually Mahnmut.


He's small and versatile because his environment on one of the Jovian moons is such that he has to spend all his life in a submarine. The other creature behind him is Orphu, who's enormous and fat like a giant crab. They share a passion for Shakespeare and they often chat via the communication channels. The circumstances force Mahnmut to descend on Mars and look for the Post-Humans, a race of superhuman godlike cyborgs who look very much like the Olympian gods. Etc, etc.

Why I'm telling this. In many ways, these strange Moravec robots have become more "human" than the humans themselves. I mean they've preserved humanity in its pure form. For instance they're pacifist (hence my motto Quaero Togam Pacem, I come in peace). Eventually they play a role in the fate of humankind. But I won't bring any more spoilers here. :-)

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Date: 2011-09-22 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nairiporter.livejournal.com
Making notes...
There are so many books I have put on my must-read list tonight!

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Date: 2011-09-22 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
I remember researching your alias a while ago. These books sound very geeky!
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Date: 2011-09-22 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
"You are a huge nerd."

Thanks! And proudly so! :-D

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Date: 2011-09-22 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Absolutely. Not wanting to kill somebody is so lame!
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Date: 2011-09-22 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Ha! Nice goalposts-moving. What about not wanting to kill somebody who's not threatening you and those you love?
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Date: 2011-09-22 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
We're philosophizing here. That requires a bigger brush. To paint the broader picture, you know.
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Date: 2011-09-22 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Ditto. (And yours appear pinky-purply on that pic).
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Date: 2011-09-22 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Didn't you say earlier today that you're one who votes conservative? That doesn't sound like a very gray statement to me.
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Date: 2011-09-22 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
That's, just, like, a talking point, d00d.

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Date: 2011-09-22 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
...And then you're unhappy that I'm ready to shoot you if necessary.
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Date: 2011-09-22 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
I have to agree with panookah on this one. Humans are savage ignorant little creatures. "Pure humanity" looks more like the crusades and less like the enlightenment.

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Date: 2011-09-22 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
"Pure" being the key word here that you seem to be ignoring.
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Date: 2011-09-22 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
Thank you.
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Date: 2011-09-22 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
Being judgmental is so underrated these days.

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Date: 2011-09-22 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Are you planning to play a role in the fate of humankind? :) I can certainly think of worse people to do that.

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Date: 2011-09-22 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
I certainly shouldn't! You don't know what you're getting into!

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Date: 2011-09-22 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
What could possibly go wrong? EH? Confess!

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Date: 2011-09-22 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
That's nice and I'ma let you finish, but I'm become destroyer of worlds... through suffocating them with melodrama!

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Date: 2011-09-22 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
Dan Simmons has always sounded a bit pretentious to me, tbh.

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Date: 2011-09-22 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
He's a nerd, yes. A big one.

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Date: 2011-09-22 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
He is a good writer (Dan Simmons) and he actually doesn't live that far from where I live. But I've stopped reading him because he has such disgusting political and religious views. I just couldn't find it in my heart to abide with the crap he spews sometimes in interviews and on his site, and according to others, in his latest book.

There are lots of good writers in the world I tell myself, and in my life I'll still not have time to read them all, so I'll focus on the ones that aren't assholes.

(sorry, I have read and liked Simmons books in previous years, before I know what I know today)

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Date: 2011-09-22 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
I didn't see any asshole views in the Ilium/Olympos cycle so I enjoyed it. :-)

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Date: 2011-09-22 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
Sorry, I didn't mean to rain on any parade. I've enjoyed those books too, and the Hyperion books, as well as The Hollow Man and some of the horror books I read in the 90's.

But I can't look past what I recently learned. The man is in bed with Glenn Beck now, and you don't want to even google Dan Simmons and Islam together. :(

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Date: 2011-09-22 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironhawke.livejournal.com
But I can't look past what I recently learned. The man is in bed with Glenn Beck now, and you don't want to even google Dan Simmons and Islam together. :(/i>

*sadface* That's really really too bad.

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Date: 2011-09-22 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
It's a surprise to me too. Such intellect, cohabiting with such delusions.

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Date: 2011-09-22 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironhawke.livejournal.com
I just moved away from Longmont, Mahnmut and I talked about my hope to coerce Simmons into lunch, alas I moved before I could ever get it arranged.

I haven't heard anyone disparage him before though, I should look into these interviews you mentioned. I feel sort of the same way about Orson Scott Card, another epic sci-fi writer whose personal opinions make me just a bit squeamish. Like OSC though, even if Simmons is kind of a douche, I'll probably go re-read Illium/Olympos.

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Date: 2011-09-22 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
With Simmonds it helps if you know your Shakespeare and Romantic Poets.

Keats, Shelly, and Byron all slot into a universe filled with Calibans, Ariels, Greek Gods, and the like.

But the books are pretty good reads.

Have you read Jon Courtenay Grimwood's Pashazade etc? Well worth it.
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