How the hive works:

[mahnmut]

...as a continuation/example for The Hive.

Some background.
Group X hosts persons X1, X2, X3, X4, X5, X6, X7, X8, X9 & X10. They're all friends/allies. You just don't mess with Group X, or else.

Group Y hosts persons Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 & Y5. They pretty much listen to what Y1 says, and respectfully agree.

Group Z hosts persons X1, X2, X3, X4, X5, Y1, Y2, Z1, Z2, Z3, etc. It's pretty mixed up there, and it's become the actual arena of the X v Y clashes.

Situation 1.
Y1 says something stupid in Group Y. Y2, Y3, Y4 & Y5 say "This!"
X1 notices that Y1 said something stupid, and shares it in Group X. X2, X3, X4, X5, X6, X7, X8, X9 & X10 say "How stupid! Haha!"

Situation 2.
Y2 says something on Group Z which X1-10 disagree with (How do they know they disagree? Well, they're of Group X after all! So they all disagree).
X1 notices this and spreads the word on Group X.
Group X go to Group Z, and they pile over Y2, eventually driving them off the map. Victory!

Situation 3.
In Group Z, Z1 has a conversation with X2, and calls X2 "baby".
X2 is not happy and complains in Group X. X1, X3, X4, X5, X6, X7, X8, X9 & X10 say "How awful!"
X1 jumps right into the middle of Conversation Z1-X2, slamming Z1: "Why did you call X2 a baby? You're a terrible person! Apologize!", to which Z1 responds: "Who are you to jump in here? Apologize? Me? No I won't!"
X1 raves on Group X, and X3, X4, X5, X6, X7, X8, X9 & X10 step up their support, but Z1 still insists they didn't mean to offend X2. However, X1 insists they did.
Z2 comes in, using some vague arguments to defend Z1 and explain how, you see, Z1 didn't mean to offend X2, and X1 is wrong to insist an apology from Z1 on behalf of X2. X1 is adamant, and so is Z1. Meanwhile, X2 is hurt, and Z2 is having their fun debate over semantics.

Guys on the sidelines can only sit in awe and headdesk.

Comments

[the-rukh.livejournal.com]

X v Y clashes is how babies are made.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

What of Z then.

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

Group X go to Group Z, and they pile over Y2, eventually driving them off the map. Victory!

And then you wonder why less and less Y's spend time on group Z.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Exactly my point. I love Group Z and I want real conversations with both X-s and Y-s. If less Y-s venture to stay because they deem the presence of coordinated, warring X-s intimidating, ultimately it's not good for Group Z. And I love Group Z.

Personally I'd prefer that the X-s tone it down a bit.

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

I agree that this is why we cannot have nice things.
That particular situation 3 has nothing to do with the purpose of group Z and that bothers me too.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Any bets on how soon this will end up on sf_drama?

[the-rukh.livejournal.com]

They destroy the sanctity of marriage! D:

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

I'm sure it will be enormously entertaining for the one who brings it up.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

I can also bet on WHO would bring it up.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Nah, it's the arena, the bed with the satin sheets which X and Y leave in total mess after they've made the baby.

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

I'm betting on X1.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Absolument.

You're smart.

[the-rukh.livejournal.com]

Z1 still needs something to do. : \

[abomvubuso.livejournal.com]

Such stuff is bound to happen every now and then. There are all sorts of factors and contexts outside of Z which indirectly affect Z as well, but you just cant control it all, so perhaps its better to learn to cope with it. Granted, when Z gets directly affected its constituents would respond respectively. Beyond that, its all up to the likes of X and Y and their small fights, but thats none of Z's bizzniss.

I hope i got your references right.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

You know me. I'm not someone who 'learns to cope' with things. I wouldn't be where I am now if it was the other way. And yet I see what you're saying. And since it's YOU who are saying it, and you're much more familiar with 'Z', I guess I'll have to trust your judgment on that one.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Like, get a Mrs. Z1a?

[abomvubuso.livejournal.com]

Trust me.

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

How is this not affecting Z?

[abomvubuso.livejournal.com]

The effect is minute.

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

A multitude of multiplied quantum effects achieves a combined effect of cosmic proportions. ;)

[abomvubuso.livejournal.com]

I wish i could Dailyquote this! :D

[luvdovz.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure what this is about but the moment which bothers me in this story is - why would X1 insist so much to speak on behalf of X2? Can't X2 speak for himself?

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Because X1 likes doing that, you know, because it's their noble mission to protect everyone from Group X justice wherever it's under threat.

[luvdovz.livejournal.com]

Which you do too, but apparently regarding Group Z.

[ghoststrider.livejournal.com]

I'm assuming this is about talk_politics, no?