Well done pastor, that was so patriotic of you

[mahnmut]

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Freedom of hatred speech is SO patriotic! What does the life of several dozen of YOUR people who'll die in the process matter?

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[pmax3.livejournal.com]

Except for "Fuck civility," the sentence you quote is the last one in your post, contrary to your claim that you "said from the beginning that there are limits to freedom of speech." Instead your opening paragraph is: "So a pastor burned a Qur'an a few days ago in Florida I guess. Muslims have been going nuts over this across the globe. I've seen quite a bit in the news about free speech, it's limitations, and the role of responsible free speech. What's weird is how much blame people are heaping on the pastor. Is freedom of expression a right, or isn't it?"

Oh yes, to repeat what I said in your blog: So you knew I was a Hindu (hell it says that on my profile and you must have added me on LJ after seeing that), and you knew perfectly well it had the potential to be taken as offensive, still you inserted a completely irrelevant mocking reference to Hinduism while arguing with me in a thread that had nothing to do with Hinduism because if I felt offended it will have to be my fault, right?

It is me who is being humorless, instead of you trying to make a personal jab when you had no response to give!

I wonder how sportive you'd be with someone who walked up to your wife or girlfriend and started saying offensive things. I may not mind what you said, but your attitude is the reason why you are so surprised that people outside your country, who consider religion paramount, take offense at the Quran burning. And if you say it's not the same thing, please try to understand that when you attack someone's religion, you're not attacking some invisible man in the sky, you are attacking that person's very being. For that reason, many times such a person feels even more justified to engage in violence than you do to protect your ideal of liberty (at least that's what you claimed earlier, later you said you were only willing to put others' lives in danger as long as yours is safe - link (http://panookah.livejournal.com/85951.html?thread=912063#t912063))

Yes I know it was the religion you were brought up in. And you might also want to think about the number of times I brought up the subject or tried to "correct" you.

You said I was too fearful to defend what I think is right, didn't you?

[pmax3.livejournal.com]

Whether it is sophistry or pointing out the repeated glaring inconsistencies in your statements would be clear to anyone who reads the two threads. That particular line which you quoted is no exception.

It is clear from my sentence that I didn't explain the violent reaction in terms of the "eight arms" remark but of Quran burning. It is obvious who is employing sophistry. In fact it has been your tactic throughout. Unfortunately for you, the comments are there for anyone to go through.

[pmax3.livejournal.com]

Given that you have descended to using adjectives such as "retarded" for me, I would indeed be very glad to be done here. Good bye.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Hope so.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Nothing in comparison to what it experiences during a TP e-wank (although I try not to provoke those on my TP posts).

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Quantity =/= quality.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

And you must've heard about the recent LJ downtime. In fact I think we're experiencing it once again, right now. Grrr.....

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Shrug. Even better: you have more time for porn.