Unfortunately this guy's the kind of dick who'd see this as making him a martyr, not that people might actually, y'know, *object* to someone burning their Holy Book. I heard some LULZy comments about this kind of thing on the Radio about how nobody complains when people burn Bibles here in the USA, and I remember how one of Dan Brown's badly written and badly researched novels made the Fundies go ballistic here.
oh yeah sure...the atheists even use the pages to roll cigarettes, including special cigarettes, wipe their rear, and so on and so forth. i think the atheistic outlook is why respect something that only causes people to fear and hate?, or something like that.
Also, this would not be the first time that Mohammad's words were burned. It is my understanding that Bakhari, in preparation of the final version of the Hadith, ordered the burning of many journals/logs that had been recorded by laymen. Yes, Mohammad also spoke to the laymen and they too recorded his words/sayings/actions. These muslims should know that.
Also - is it just me, or does the muslim interviewed seem to have just as much fear in the center as does the bloody pastor who burned the book? i guess no two alike can ever really get along.
There hasn't been one. Given how people reacted to The Last Temptation of Christ and The Da Vinci Code I wouldn't be surprised if people did start yelling and screaming about it.
well, there is no need to burn bibles in afghanistan since bibles are not allowed in the first place. in fact, to the best of my knowledge, christians are not allowed there either....they have to move here to the USA in order to live and not be persecuted. those people have no religious tolerance so to see an afghani individual generalize in such a fashion proves, to me, that the afghani people are being fed a bunch of hog-wash & pure propoganda. r i d i c u l o u s
That is of course, in case you're willing to level the "advanced" US society to the "backward" Afghani one and use the latter as an excuse and comparison for flaws in the former ;)
People are free to speak and yet they should think about the consequences of their actions. Several UN workers were killed in Afghanistan as a direct consequence of the pastor's actions and that was totally unnecessary. It served no purpose but to create more divisions between people.
Well, after you call another country a "shit hole" I don't think it makes you look very smart to keep asking "Why do they hate us?" And that's where you are going wrong - it's not all about poverty, it's also about according people dignity.
What you are saying is applicable to large segments of populations in several countries of South Asia and Africa. Would you use that adjective for those countries? Especially knowing the nationalities of the person you are talking to and the person whose journal you are commenting in? And again, does thinking about this help you find the answer to "why do they hate us?"
After 30 years of civil war and two superpower armies wrecking the place, I think the word "shit hole" is putting it a bit mildly where Afghanistan's concerned. I'd use "Real-life post-apocalyptic clusterfuck" myself.
Morons are morons anywhere, just some are more violent than others (which is not to say the others can't get violent too, but you'd need to push their buttons a bit harder).
I will say to you what I said to Nani as well. Rephrasing a thought I have heard elsewhere: "There are good people who do good things. And there are bad people who do bad things. But in order to have an otherwise good person do bad things, you need religion".
This does not tally with my experience, the nearest counterexample being Panookah, who isn't religious but supports this act. It seems that it really doesn't take religion to make an otherwise good person do bad things. Incidentally, I am religious but deplore the incident. Can I please ask what you think of this?
People can have different perceptions of things and therefore different points of view and consequently different approaches to one and the same event or idea. Let's not judge anybody based on what they say but what they do.
Could you elaborate about your question - what I think about what. About your religiousness, about you deploring this incident, or about a non-religious person supporting that incident?
I personally do not agree 100% with that proverb, but I felt that I had to mention it.
But a bit more seriously now. Freedom of being an asshole is a right, yes. As well as the freedom to bear the consequences of it. Its not like he didnt know what the consequences of his exercising his freedom of being an asshole would be. (In case he didnt, then he was not just an asshole, but an ignorant asshole).
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Date: 2011-04-05 12:44 am (UTC)Also, this would not be the first time that Mohammad's words were burned. It is my understanding that Bakhari, in preparation of the final version of the Hadith, ordered the burning of many journals/logs that had been recorded by laymen. Yes, Mohammad also spoke to the laymen and they too recorded his words/sayings/actions. These muslims should know that.
Also - is it just me, or does the muslim interviewed seem to have just as much fear in the center as does the bloody pastor who burned the book? i guess no two alike can ever really get along.
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Date: 2011-04-05 11:07 am (UTC)I don't do these things.
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Date: 2011-04-05 11:39 am (UTC)"There are good people who do good things. And there are bad people who do bad things. But in order to have an otherwise good person do bad things, you need religion".
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Date: 2011-04-05 08:36 pm (UTC)Could you elaborate about your question - what I think about what. About your religiousness, about you deploring this incident, or about a non-religious person supporting that incident?
I personally do not agree 100% with that proverb, but I felt that I had to mention it.
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